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2023.05.29 04:53 SBDovah Reduction and User Illusion: The Darkness's True Links to Consciousness
As we've learned more about the Darkness, we've come to know that it's more strongly connected to consciousness and psychic phenomena than the Light, while the Light is more associated with the physical world. There's been a lot of confusion and debate as to how this syncs with previous descriptions of the Darkness and its effects, with some going as far as to call it a retcon. I propose that not only is this not necessarily a retcon (advice I'd apply to many prematurely jumped to conclusions around here, frankly), but that it could fit seamlessly with the Darkness as it was described prior to Lightfall. Specifically, its nature as the metaphysical embodiment of reduction.
So with this reductiveness in mind, it's not that hard to see how one finds the Sword Logic and pursuit of the Final Shape, as maximal reductions of existence itself, in the Darkness. But how do the mind and consciousness enter this picture?
Now place the apple in front of a Human. A Human generally won't perceive the apple in terms of the physics equations underlying it, but will instead tell you of its redness. Its roundness. The texture of its skin upon picking it up, and its taste and smell after taking a bite of it. Perhaps they'd also tell you of a happy memory involving an apple, or some weird superstition they have about apples. Or any number of thoughts Humans can have about apples... as mediated through their consciousness.
What's the fundamental difference between the Human take on apples and the Vex take? Symbols, just like Clovis said. In lieu of processing all the math and physics that describe the apple objectively, Human brains construct symbols of consciousness that subjectively substitute for those things. Apples appear red because they reflect a certain wavelength of light, but while a Vex would know an apple's redness only in that it simulates that wavelength of light and the apple's reflection of it, us Humans... just see red. For whatever reason, our brains construct this little illusion, the qualia of redness, and assign it to that particular wavelength of light, and ditto for everything else we perceive. Even when we aren't directly perceiving something, but recalling or imagining it, our cognition is ultimately still constrained by this symbolic mode of thought.
In philosophy of mind studies, this topic is addressed in a concept called user illusion, named so because it compares consciousness to a computer's user interface. What we see and interact with on a UI has virtually nothing to do with how the computer actually functions, except that it organizes and simplifies all the functions into little symbols we can grasp more easily. The same goes, according to this idea's proponents, for our conscious minds as to our unconscious minds. There's tons of fascinating research surrounding this, but a convenient factoid in the above link is how Humans perceive roughly 12 million bits of information through all our senses every second... but nearly all of this is processed subconsciously, and conscious processing only does about 60 bits per second.
In other words, what we consciously experience is filtered... or winnowed, you might say... from a vastly larger influx of information into a relative handful of symbols we can process more efficiently. But where do these symbols come from, at least in Destiny's case?
Take all that in aggregate, and it seems to me that the Darkness's psychic aspects are neither 'deeper' in the Darkness than the violent, Sword-adjacent aspects nor entirely removed from how the Darkness was presented before Lightfall. Rather, both are just outgrowths of its truly fundamental nature as reduction, whether that reduction is absolute in pursuit of the Final Shape or measured for the purposes of psychic unions like the Ecumene.
TL;DR - I propose that consciousness in Destiny derives from the Darkness, as a paracausal embodiment of the user illusion principle, reducing the mathematics that form the cosmos objectively into the semiotics and qualia through which most intelligent beings (excluding the Vex) perceive it subjectively. And that further reduction of the differences in consciousness between individuals is the mechanism behind the Darkness's constructive uses.
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Ontological Winnowing: Darkness and Reduction
Before we get into how the Darkness relates to consciousness, let's examine what we knew of the Darkness before that connection was revealed. One's first thought might be that the Darkness was presented as a force of hyper-Darwinism that defined and measured existence through conquest and violence... which it was, as illustrated through the Sword Logic. However, I'd argue that this wasn't the philosophical core of the Darkness, but rather an emergent outgrowth of a deeper nature (and that the same is likely true of its relation to consciousness). That deeper nature being reduction, as simply and as universally as that concept can be applied. The best evidence for this is probably found in Clovis's observations of Clarity...This is the application of Clarity to state A to produce a lower-entropy stateB. (Clarity is fond of removing portions of a state configuration, harrowingthe phase space down to only its most robust inhabitants.)... which were that it has a fundamentally reductive nature. Not a destructive one necessarily, as shown by Clovis using this reductive effect to bypass the billboarding problem and create functional Exos... just plain, neutral reduction. A skeptic might say that this effect on the Exos has less to do with Darkness's reductiveness and more with its general psychic properties, but aside from those aspects probably being closely connected anyway (more on that later), note Clovis's comments on Clarity's reduction of phase spaces in a general context, and his direct observation of it breaking down Vex radiolaria patterns. In other words, even if the Darkness reinforces Exo minds through its mental aspects to some extent, it certainly does so through its reductive aspects as well.
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What if there was some primeval chaos, some pre-cosmic entropy, whichwas soaked in Clarity to reduce it to that first nucleus of all existencewhich issued the Big Bang? What if Clarity's defiance of time-reversibilitymakes it a fountain of cosmic youth, returning all that is burnt out andburnt down to its state before the fire?Perhaps Clarity is the Ein Sof, the nameless god before creation.Preparator of the cosmic egg. Razor that cuts the fat of complication awayfrom the bone.---
The Vex radiolarian fluid is obviously too virulent for use in exominds. Butif exposed to Clarity, the Vex patterns break down, and the fluid takes onsome of the properties of Clarity itself—namely, its reductive effect.
Introducing a tiny aliquot of this reified Clarity into an exomind solves theloop/billboard/crash cycle. As far as I can tell—permanently.
THE COMBINATION OF VEX FLUID AND CLARITY IS THE KEY TOCYBERNETIC IMMORTALITY!
Speculation: the interaction of Clarity, with its caustic anti-structural properties, and the Vex mind fluid, with its highly physicalized and asymbolic architecture, creates a "physicalized algorithm" that can serve as a random seed for the knockouts required to sustain a viable exomind.
So with this reductiveness in mind, it's not that hard to see how one finds the Sword Logic and pursuit of the Final Shape, as maximal reductions of existence itself, in the Darkness. But how do the mind and consciousness enter this picture?
Informational Winnowing: Darkness and Consciousness
To start off this section, let's go back to our boy Clovis and his summary of Human cognition, in contrast to that of the Vex.I note that the Vex milk, while computationally powerful, seems to avoid semiosis. That is, it prefers to mimic the actual dynamics of phenomena rather than assigning a symbol. This a fundamental difference between Vex cognition and our own. We encode inputs as symbols, manipulate the symbols according to some set of logical rules, and produce output. The Vex are more direct. Burn them, and they will extinguish the fire-not because they possess a symbolic knowledge of fire and its properties, but because their structure is so suited to adaption and survival that the heat of the fire directly becomes the response required to snuff it out. Rather than encoding symbols, they generate self-sustaining and self-correcting patterns, which like the suspension of a bridge flexing under strain, can accept destructive input and produce reparatory output.TL;DR is that while Human (and apparently most species in Destiny) cognition relies on semiotics, the assignment of mental symbols to external phenomena, the Vex just simulate the phenomena directly. To explore this distinction more, let's look at how a Vex's observation of an apple would differ from that of a Human. Place an apple in front of a Vex, and all the Vex would 'perceive' is a cluster of numbers and equations. Data representing all the particles and forces comprising the objective, physical existence of the apple and whatever interacts with it. And objectively speaking, that's all the apple really is anyway, as far as monist materialism is concerned.
Now place the apple in front of a Human. A Human generally won't perceive the apple in terms of the physics equations underlying it, but will instead tell you of its redness. Its roundness. The texture of its skin upon picking it up, and its taste and smell after taking a bite of it. Perhaps they'd also tell you of a happy memory involving an apple, or some weird superstition they have about apples. Or any number of thoughts Humans can have about apples... as mediated through their consciousness.
What's the fundamental difference between the Human take on apples and the Vex take? Symbols, just like Clovis said. In lieu of processing all the math and physics that describe the apple objectively, Human brains construct symbols of consciousness that subjectively substitute for those things. Apples appear red because they reflect a certain wavelength of light, but while a Vex would know an apple's redness only in that it simulates that wavelength of light and the apple's reflection of it, us Humans... just see red. For whatever reason, our brains construct this little illusion, the qualia of redness, and assign it to that particular wavelength of light, and ditto for everything else we perceive. Even when we aren't directly perceiving something, but recalling or imagining it, our cognition is ultimately still constrained by this symbolic mode of thought.
In philosophy of mind studies, this topic is addressed in a concept called user illusion, named so because it compares consciousness to a computer's user interface. What we see and interact with on a UI has virtually nothing to do with how the computer actually functions, except that it organizes and simplifies all the functions into little symbols we can grasp more easily. The same goes, according to this idea's proponents, for our conscious minds as to our unconscious minds. There's tons of fascinating research surrounding this, but a convenient factoid in the above link is how Humans perceive roughly 12 million bits of information through all our senses every second... but nearly all of this is processed subconsciously, and conscious processing only does about 60 bits per second.
In other words, what we consciously experience is filtered... or winnowed, you might say... from a vastly larger influx of information into a relative handful of symbols we can process more efficiently. But where do these symbols come from, at least in Destiny's case?
"Metaphor simplifies as the knife does."
It's easy to see where I'm going with this now, but for extra support (and to make a point on another issue I think people tend to overlook), I'll refer to Inspiral, which I think might have directly hinted at this...(Remember that the sun is also a metaphor: a thing said beautifully, winnowed down to poetry, when the truth is too vast to put in words at all.)The Winnower itself (no objections on how it's actually the Witness catfishing us please) places particular emphasis on metaphor (basically a linguistic symbol) as a simplification of inconceivably complex concepts into forms our little monkey brains can manage... and poetry. "A thing said beautifully." Aside from explaining why it seems so fond of metaphor in general, this might tie into another Inspiral entry, the one narrated by Eris.
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All of these are false, for metaphor simplifies as the knife does. It pares incalculable concepts into shapes your wrinkly little brains can comprehend. The weight of billions and the simple curve of a planet give you pause, and how then are you to be expected to grasp the forces that created your nth-removed creator?
…I digress. There were times, deep in that dark pit, when I thought: Ah, Sai means to break left. And then she would, knives like lightning, as true as if she herself had told me she would. Or: Ah, there is Omar, beside me, and though he was not, his presence rang comforting in my ears like struck metal.Synergy, I thought. The closeness that combat creates. We were pinned together in the dark, and so we learned to read each other perfectly, for to do otherwise would have been to die.To die sooner.Anecdata? Perhaps. Always the quiet voice that says to temper my expectations, that it is wishful thinking to imagine that they lie beside my heart, instead of Nightmares floating in my wake. But in all this time, all of this lingering, I am surer of what I felt then. Not only necessity; not only the edge of the blade.I know more of Darkness now. It is not violence. It is something more: something that hums and flows and resonates, knife or song by equal measure.After recounting how she started to mentally synergize with her fireteam in the Darkness of the Moon, Eris concludes that the Darkness is not just the violence of the Sword Logic, but something more. "Knife or song by equal measure." A "song" being no more or less intrinsic to the Darkness than the Sword Logic isn't that far removed from "poetry" being winnowed down from less organized information. So I argue that the root of this mental synergy Eris experienced, this "something more" from which song and knife both stem... is reduction again. Reduction of the barriers between Eris's mind and her teammates', I would guess, and the same thing on a larger scale is probably how the Ecumene utilized the Darkness. Instead of slamming together countless different species of literally astronomical differences in biologies and histories and hoping for the best, they used the Darkness to "gloss"... to refine... to winnow all the wildly divergent perceptions and values into a common medium through which all partaking could see through each other's 'eyes' (literally or otherwise) and relate to one another.
Take all that in aggregate, and it seems to me that the Darkness's psychic aspects are neither 'deeper' in the Darkness than the violent, Sword-adjacent aspects nor entirely removed from how the Darkness was presented before Lightfall. Rather, both are just outgrowths of its truly fundamental nature as reduction, whether that reduction is absolute in pursuit of the Final Shape or measured for the purposes of psychic unions like the Ecumene.
TL;DR - I propose that consciousness in Destiny derives from the Darkness, as a paracausal embodiment of the user illusion principle, reducing the mathematics that form the cosmos objectively into the semiotics and qualia through which most intelligent beings (excluding the Vex) perceive it subjectively. And that further reduction of the differences in consciousness between individuals is the mechanism behind the Darkness's constructive uses.
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2023.05.29 04:47 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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2023.05.29 04:46 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
2023.05.29 04:46 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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2023.05.29 04:44 tehchives Help Build the WhyDRS Database! What is it, what it's used for, why it's important, and how to contribute.
Help Build the WhyDRS Database! What is it, what it's used for, why it's important, and how to contribute.
Want to jump straight to the database, or know more about how to contribute? Skip to the bottom!The Context
Interest in the Direct Registration System (DRS) was niche up until 2021, when GameStop investors became aware of this holding option. Use of DRS allows for investors to hold stock in their own name as the legal title holder and be listed directly on the issuer's ledger, as opposed to the traditional method for investors in U.S. publicly traded companies - holding through a broker in 'street name', where the actual owner is Cede and Company.Holding in one's own name is not for all investors, but carries unique benefits which may be appealing to some such as long term and value investors. Legal title holders communicate directly with the company, can more easily submit shareholder proposals and gain access to the stock list, and know that their shares can't be lent without their consent.
Although information regarding the Direct Registration System and individual publicly traded stock is generally available, it is scattered and can be hard to find and to parse. The WhyDRS Database Project intends to gather everything in one place, and make it easy for any investor to get direct access to static information about their investment and how to own securities in their own name.
All DRSGME and WhyDRS tools are created by volunteers, are free use for everyone, and aim to be continually improving.
What is it?
The WhyDRS Database provides information about the 11,000+ U.S. publicly traded companies, including but not limited to:Stock symbol, exchange, name, Transfer Agent, DTC member #, IR contact information, shares outstanding, CIK, CUSIP, and if the company provides DRS information in financial filings.
WhyDRS has been built with scalability in mind, and site resources and pages build out from this central data hub. Transfer Agents and Brokers/Central Security Depositories are also listed in the Database.
What the Database is used for
DRS Request TemplateThe DRS request template is the crown achievement of the Database so far. A user who desires Direct Registration for their securities is able to enter any stock and any broker, and be provided relevant data to help organize their request. Different brokers, issuers, and transfer agents can have varying procedures in how to begin the direct registration process. Gathering this information and providing it to users sets them up for success. This tool does not directly submit any request, nor save any data.
https://www.reddit.com/DRSyourGME/comments/137ixi1/new_tool_from_whydrsorg_the_drs_request_template/
https://www.whydrs.org/drs-request-template
Investor Relations Outreach Tool
Generates a mailto: prompt which allows users to choose any issuing company for IR outreach. An email window can be opened to send a request to an issuer to provide more information about DRS in its filings. The tool reads the IR email, company information and whether the issuer already provides DRS info from the database. No user data is collected - the mailto: command is used.
https://www.whydrs.org/contact-investor-relations
Transfer Agent, Broker, and Issuer Landing Pages
Currently each of the major 5 transfer agents have their own landing page, with contact information provided by the database. These landing pages have unique URLs for ease of sharing. Broker and Issuer landing pages are in development and will launch after more data has been collected.
https://www.whydrs.org/transfer-agents
Why the Database is Important
It's not right for information to be kept from curious investors, and it's not fair when middlemen try to monetize access to information which is supposed to be public. WhyDRS is trying to even the playing field and make it easier for retail investors to compete.For example: if the database had every email from every issuer, and each directly registered investor requested their companies to “please include DRS numbers in 10K and 10Q’s” that alone could start to change the market for the better. It is possible that the main reason issuers don’t disclose numbers is because they don't realize it is desired by their shareholders. "I think an issuer makes disclosures that their investors find material - and engaging with issuers as you have may change what they think that investors find material."said SEC Chairman Gary Gensler.
Investors can’t ask if they don’t have these emails.
The more investors who know about DRS, the better!
Got it!
Okay - I want to see the Data!
Onsite Landing Page: https://www.whydrs.org/database Top 1k Companies by Completion %: https://transferagents.eth.limo/ All Companies, All Data: https://references.transferagents.eth.limo/ All Companies, All Data, Hosted on Google: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets2/d/e/2PACX-1vSej0xJPYfkVeQGVBc1CZbcie9jCXNnwcU0l1szJaXdPZU0XhQli5sMgjdmmGZE32uZc6QBiELzRo9N/pubhtml?gid=1544430281&single=trueFor further reading about DRS in general, check out the WhyDRS Information Packet: https://www.whydrs.org/the-whydrs-information-packet
I want to Contribute!
Our preferred method of contribution is with:Google-powered Contribution Forms - Issuers: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeYbRsNLz7aIsCjUHHm-JwSY3a4E7zCzFnG0A4tew9t4eK7yA/viewform Brokers: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1nzzHzUmQaFRdH9MMrlsLcWAsAO3K5Brt8Te7xxABngw/edit Transfer Agents: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ezhOxnz-KHFd7FLrHcwwt13UvVTkF1MBFptVZlJLeVE/edit
These Google forms feed into a spreadsheet which can be very easily added to the main spreadsheet backend linked above, as the provided data will already be sorted and organized. If you are signed into a Google account, and don't want to share that account with our team, make sure you switch to a burner, temporary, or alternate address.
However, if you don't have an alternate email address, you can also send data in through Modmail.
If you find a directory of data that you think would be helpful, or build one yourself, please contact us through Modmail as well.
Where do I find the data?
While many issuers have dedicated investor relations webpages, and many also include contact numbers / emails on those pages, it is not a requirement and there are plenty of issuers which do not. Sometimes some elbow grease is needed! Calling the companies IR department, or management offices if there is no IR phone number, can be a good place to start. Sometimes SEC filings such as Proxy vote reports and packets will include contact information as well.Some have also found good success utilizing AI tools, such as ChatGPT. Here's an example of using ChapGPT to find an IR email for an issuer.
- Search the database for empty spaces in the IR Emails column. https://ibb.co/xg7vhxq
- Fill out the template for this prompt: Please find the investor relations email for the company "Test_Company". Their ticker is TEST if that helps. https://ibb.co/pK1xpJG
- Check the source on the answer, and confirm that it looks legitimate. https://ibb.co/thX89YY
- Fill out the Google form and include the email and URL. https://ibb.co/GsLMCY7
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2023.05.29 04:43 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
2023.05.29 04:43 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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2023.05.29 04:41 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
2023.05.29 04:40 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
2023.05.29 04:40 unityofreligions Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
Please elaborate on 'Love to children will spoil them'
[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.
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[ Mr. Anil asked: You mentioned that love to children will spoil them and the love shall be diverted to God for their benefit. Kindly please elaborate.]
You must concentrate all your love to God without an iota left over for the world. This is the state of climax in spiritual effort. Generally, love, expressed, spoils the children as we often see it in the world. The real love should be hidden in the heart to do real help to the children for their development. Their worldly life is the externally seen tree. The root for the tree is hidden in the earth and forms the basic support of the tree.
Similarly, the God is the support of this worldly life and also the support in the upper worlds. Your real love to the children will be appreciated if you divert all your love to God so that God loves them as the children of His devotee, which results in everlasting protection. Still, a better effort will be more fruitful if you inculcate devotion in their minds to love God like you so that their children also will be protected. The children being the issues of a devotee and being themselves devotees will get the reinforced blessings from God. Your love often expressed in words has no practical value and also spoils them. You can divert the time of your expression of love to them in inducing love to God in their brains. The parents should not waste their time but utilize the time in positive direction.