Harbor valorant rule 34
One word: "revenge"
2023.05.30 00:55 Acceptable-Crew-3518 One word: "revenge"
2023.05.30 00:02 GoodGetGorilla The rules for doubles pickleball (very short version )
- Court and Equipment: Double pickleball is played on a court that is similar in size to a badminton court, measuring 20 feet wide and 44 feet long. The court is divided by a net that stands 36 inches high at the center and 34 inches high at the sidelines. Each player uses a solid paddle made of composite or other approved materials, and the game is played with a perforated plastic ball.
- Serving: The serving team begins the game, and each player on the team gets a chance to serve before the serve is switched to the opposing team. The serve must be made underhand, with the paddle contacting the ball below the waist level. The server must stand behind the baseline and serve diagonally into the opponent's service court, ensuring the ball clears the net and lands within the boundaries of the service court. The team that starts the game will only get 1 serve and start with the score 0-0-2
- Scoring: In double pickleball, only the serving team has the opportunity to score points. If the serving team successfully wins a rally, they earn a point and continue serving. However, if the receiving team wins a rally, they gain the serve but do not score a point. The serving team can only score points while they have the serve.To announce the score, you typically state the serving team's score first, followed by the receiving team's score, and finally, the server's number.
- The server's number refers to their position in the serving rotation. For example, if the serving team's score is 3, the receiving team's score is 2, and the server is the first player in the rotation, the score would be announced as "3-2-1" or "3 serving 2-1." This indicates that the serving team has three points, the receiving team has two points, and it's the first player's turn to serve.
- Remember that the score is announced before the serve, and the server's number is mentioned to keep track of the rotation and ensure fairness in serving opportunities. A point is awarded if the opponent fails to return the ball successfully, commits a fault, or hits the ball out of bounds. The first team to reach 11 points, with a lead of at least two points, wins the game. Typically, matches are best-of-three games.
- Double Bounce Rule: After the serve, each team must allow the ball to bounce once on their side of the net before hitting it. Similarly, the receiving team must let the serve bounce before returning it. After the two bounces, the ball can be played in the air or allowed to bounce between hits.
- Non-Volley Zone (Kitchen): A seven-foot non-volley zone, also known as the kitchen, extends from the net into the court. Players are not allowed to hit the ball directly from within this zone unless the ball has bounced there first. However, players can enter the non-volley zone after hitting the ball elsewhere on the court.
- Faults: Several faults can result in the loss of a point or the loss of the serve. These include hitting the ball out of bounds, failing to clear the net on a serve, stepping into the non-volley zone while hitting a volley, volleying the ball before it has bounced, or hitting the ball before it has crossed the net.
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2023.05.29 23:43 AutomaticYogurt3219 AITA for not buying new lingerie for my new partner and wearing lingerie already owned?
I (34/F) recently became intimate with my new boyfriend (28/M). He loves lingerie and I have quite a few gently used pieces that were very expensive.
I thought I would wear some from him, and after the third time with a third piece he'd never seen before, he asked when I bought it/had time to go shopping/where, etc. He was fine when he asked (seemed like sheer curiosity) until I told him I already owned it.
Then he asked about the other lingerie I'd worn for him... I was honest and told him I had also previously purchased those. He thought it was rude and disgusting that I would "re-use" lingerie on him that I bought "for" someone else. He didn't seem to care that they were gently used, cleaned, and/or expensive.
I've never had this issue come up before and am wondering AITA for not buying new lingiere for him? Does lingerie have a one-person rule that I wasn't aware of?
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2023.05.29 23:18 DXS110 10% off for Father’s Day
2023.05.29 22:59 OmegaMx99 [REQUEST] [PC] [BATTLE.NET] BlackCell Pass. [4th try]. $33.59
I would really like to say other bigger things, but the truth is that there aren't, I would just like to have and be able to use the skins of the Black Cell pass. I could perhaps promise that in case someone gives it to me, in a few months when I have a job, I will return to this subreddit to give away one or more games until I complete or slightly exceed the cost of the black cell pass that they give me.
If you accept my proposal or you just want to give it to me, I will leave my id and the link of the page, I think we must be friends for 3 days in the Battle.net accounts to be able to give something away.
It can also be done directly from the Battle.net launcher.
The store link is:
https://us.shop.battle.net/es-mx/product/call-of-duty-mwii-wz2-black-cell-pack?p=1093678&\_ga=2.240718858.825299118.1684529436-1813883993.1663985848 My Battlenet ID is: OmegaMx99#1477
I will put the same thing below as in my other posts just to be able to publish, because being 100% honest, I have nothing more to say. Anyway, if you're interested in reading it:
Hello, I would like to introduce myself first, my name is Luis and I am from Mexico.
I've read the rules and tips on the subreddit, I've read about writing a love letter to the game, and maybe this isn't what you're expecting to read, but I want to give it a try.
About COD, I remember playing a COD for the first time many years ago, I honestly don't know what it was, but it was one of the first where there were only old and classic weapons. I didn't even have it "legal", my brother installed it on an old laptop from a usb that a friend of his lent him.
I didn't play a call of duty again until about 2014 on an xbox, again thanks to my brother and a friend of his who lent him his account, (I don't remember which one it was either) I only remember that you could play waves and I played it a lot with my brother .
And again, I never played Call of Duty again until years after I found out about Warzone. And now, I was finally able to buy my first COD and I loved the campaign, and of course, I was addicted to multiplayer and warzone 2.0.
I usually play Warzone with a friend I met on a stream, and once in a while with my brother.
I like the skins, since I saw Ghost I loved the character because I felt that it was related (in a certain way because of the skull mask) with the day of the dead in Mexico and now with the blackcell pass, Alejandro in that version has a skull gold painted on the face, and Valeria looks great with the tattoos that make it look like it's also a skull, added to the eyes that emphasize the effect a bit. There are also other skins that look great, even Ghost, but I think the ones that look the best are Alejandro and Valeria.
The default BlackCell Pass also includes the normal Battle Pass.
Now I can't buy it on my own, because I'm saving to buy a welding machine and an electronic mask to be able to do work on my own when I finish the welding course. I also can't afford to spend money because on June 3 I'm going to study motorcycle mechanics, but in another city that's close (2 hours by car approximately) and every weekend (Saturdays) I'll have to go to my classes, for what I will spend on gasoline, plus the materials that they ask me for, the insurance, the uniform, the monthly payment and a couple of other things.
So if someone decides to gift me the blackcell pass, I would give them a sincere thank you. The pass costs $33 or $34 in the Battlenet.com launcher or in the web store.
I think we need to be friends for 3 days to be able to gift something to someone else.
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2023.05.29 22:20 ChannelJov is this a legit buy or scam?
2023.05.29 22:03 YourSexyNeighbors270 Very New
My wife and I have been together over 12 years. Her(33) and I (34) were each others first and last partner. We have talked bout bringing in a third or another couple consistently for over 2 years and have even developed some basic rules if we decide to go through with this. We are looking for tips to get started, how to find a willing partner and if events, takeovers or clubs would be best for dipping our toes in.
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2023.05.29 21:00 Davidmoose 4K video editing / processing / multimedia / moderate gaming rig
Build Help:
I am looking for input/recommendations regarding a build for a PC that can handle 4k video editing and high computational power software (such as drone point clouds). Being able to game and use the computer for other entertainment is an added bonus. Please suggest changes or provide feedback based on your experience with any of these parts:
Have you read the sidebar and rules? (Please do) Yes.
What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better. I am mostly interested in 4K video editing and having the capability to handle large data sets from drone flight (such as multispectral data/point clouds). When not handling data, I would like to be able to game moderately (I don't really play any brand new AAA titles) and use the PC for other entertainment.
If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings) High quality, as mentioned previously I am not actively playing new or high-budget AAA titles.
What is your budget (ballpark is okay)? $ < 2500, including monitor
In what country are you purchasing your parts? USA
Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please). Consider formatting your parts list. Don't ask to be spoonfed a build (read the rules!).
PCPartPicker Part List Provide any additional details you wish below. This would be replacing an approximately 7-year-old build. Poor thing (with a GTX 980!) got me through college and grad school without a problem, but I think it's time to upgrade.
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2023.05.29 20:15 Baumguard Ever Given Rule 34, 15k Post, 3k Upvotes, 35k Views
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2023.05.29 20:02 Pruvided The PBE Is Now Closed & Will Return on June 23
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If you don't have access to the PBE yet, don't worry! It can take several weeks/months to be invited, so please be patient. Invites usually go out to a small group of eligible players once every other PBE patch, so regularly check your email/Riot Client and the PBE schedule. Sign up here!
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2023.05.29 19:53 maheshjtp Arnab Goswami Biography
| Arnab Goswami Biography, Educational, Career, NetWorth He is a journalist from India who hosts a program on Republic Media Network. He was an anchor for Times Now and ET Now from 2006 to 2016 before becoming managing director and editor-in-chief of Republic TV. Additionally, he briefly worked for the Telegraph and NDTV. https://preview.redd.it/9w281dmr6t2b1.png?width=529&format=png&auto=webp&s=febc9775b97addcff6f4fc0eb90ede92fe1943d1 His "The Newshour" show used to be seen on Times Now. It used to air live on the weekdays at nine o'clock. He used to interview important individuals from politics, entertainment, sports, and other fields on his program Frankly Speaking with Arnab, which also gained popularity. As Editor-in-Chief of Times Now, Arnab left in May 2017 to launch his television network, Republic TV. Personal Background He was born in an Assamese family in Guwahati, Assam, on March 7, 1973. His father, Manoranjan Goswami, served in the Indian Army for thirty years before retiring as a colonel. He ran for the Lok Sabha in Guwahati as well, however, he lost the election. The mother of Goswami is a novelist by the name of Suprabha Gain-Goswami. Arnab is wed to Samyabrata Ray Goswami. Ray is a co-owner of Republic Media Network and a journalist. Educational Background https://preview.redd.it/ome17xus6t2b1.png?width=560&format=png&auto=webp&s=5caff89e435480de6b6e0ec74978c55e766a6b91 He had gone to several schools all around India because he was the son of an army officer. He attended Mount St. Mary's School in New Delhi for his class of 10 and Kendriya Vidyalaya in Jabalpur Cantonment for his class of 12. He graduated from Hindu College at the University of Delhi with a bachelor's degree. He earned his master's degree in social anthropology from St. Antony's College at Oxford University. A Stint at The Telegraph and NDTV He had previously worked as a journalist for Telegraph in Kolkata, but he soon moved to New Delhi and began working for NDTV. NDTV employed him from 1996 till 2006. He formerly appeared as an anchor on the NDTV program. He joined Times Now as Editor-in-Chief after quitting NDTV. Then, Times Now had just been introduced. https://preview.redd.it/ctxm9gyt6t2b1.png?width=463&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d09e47906f1c0a13ddf78b88a13e61e46faf097 Parvez Musharaff and other famous and influential people were featured on Arnab's program Newshour. He conducted in-depth interviews with prominent figures for his program Frankly Speaking with Arnab, including former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, retired leader of the Tibetan Government in Exile, Gordon Brown, Benazir Bhutto, and Afghan President Hamid Karzai. In 2014, shortly after entering office, he made history by becoming the first journalist and news presenter to speak with Prime Minister Narendra Modi. He left the Times Now, citing editorial disagreements, staff politics, and a lack of journalistic independence as his reasons. His Show and Channel Rajeev Chandrasekhar gives money to Asianet, while Asianet gives money to Republic Tv. Rajeev Chandrasekhar is a vice-president of the National Democratic Alliance and a member of the Rajya Sabha, which has strong relations with the government's Bhartiya Janta Party. However, he eventually resigned from all of his duties at ARG Outlier Asianet News Pvt Ltd. He declared that because he had officially joined the Bhartiya Janta Party, it would be in his best interests to step down from the board. Ramdas Pai and his wife, as well as educationist Ramakanta, are among the group's significant investors. Through SARG Media Holding Private Limited, they have all made investments. Rajeev Chandrasekhar and Asianet News Media and Entertainment's shares were mostly acquired by Arnab. Editor's Guild Resignation Episode After the Palghar Mob Lynching, Arnab stated on live television that he was leaving the Editor Guild. Shekhar Gupta was accused by Arnab of compromising his journalism by remaining silent on this matter. Following a complaint from the maharashtra Power minister Nitin Raut, the Nagpur Police filed a First Information Report against Arnab Goswami. Charges include inciting hatred between two groups based on race or religion, provoking someone with the purpose to start a disturbance, and other violations of the Indian Penal Code were included in the FIR that was filed against Goswami. Nature of Journalism His reportage has constantly come under fire for being biased, and doubts have been raised about it. According to journalism experts, he frequently supports the Bhartiya Janta Party, which is in power. His detractors have noted that he never criticizes the dominant party and always puts the opposition in a negative light. Goswami is also credited with popularising the labels "Urban Naxal" and "Anti-National." He refers to people who contest right-wing ideology with these names. He allegedly tries to incite jingoism and hypernationalism among the crowd. His news network resembles North Korean media, which works to stifle opposition and has strong ties to the government. Controversial Events An Indian lawmaker named Shashi Tharoor filed a civil defamation lawsuit against Arnab and his media organization in the Delhi High Court on May 26, 2017. In his show, Arnab asserted that Tharoor was involved in the case of Sunanda Pushkar. The High Court's judges were particularly harsh with the media group. In 2018, a 30-second video that he used to describe a group as "the most shameless bunch of Indians I have ever seen" was making the rounds on social media. He was talking about the international help for the flood-stricken state of Kerala. Later it was discovered that these words were directed at the Marxist "Tukde-Tukde Gang" and not Keralans. On August 30, 2018, the NBSA of India requested a full-screen apology from the Republic Tv network for abusing one of his journalists and using profanity toward a group of people during a political event. They took down the YouTube account and footage. They appealed to the court after disobeying the NBSA directive. In October 2019, the NBSA once more requested a public apology from Republic media after the media network refused to comply in the case of Arnab, who was charged with violating normative rules against racial and religious stereotyping. He disobeyed the directive. https://preview.redd.it/f4vv8xlv6t2b1.png?width=587&format=png&auto=webp&s=c7e0007415cc7eca779af2f5a9ed322638a99ecf On suspicion of trespassing, police detained a cab driver and two Republic television journalists at Uddhav Thackeray's property in Maharashtra. Arnab Goswami and the government of Uddhav Thackeray clashed over the matter. His group urged the government to release his journalist right away. Additionally, they claimed that the Shiv Sena had threatened to shut down Republic TV and Channel Republic Bharat. On November 4, 2020, police apprehended Arnab Goswami on suspicion of aiding Anvay Naik's suicide in violation of sections 305 and 34 of the Indian Penal Code. Naik listed three persons, including Arnab, not paying their debts as a motive for his death in his suicide note, however, on November 11, 2020, the Supreme Court of India granted Arnab temporary release. The Mumbai Police launched an investigation into the possible manipulation of particular TRP values. They began their investigation after receiving a complaint about these actions. Many persons were mentioned in the complaint, including Partho Das Gupta, the former CEO of the Broadcast Audience Research Council. Das was charged by the police with using fraudulent viewership statistics to defraud sponsors. Such charges were brought against Republic, and more particularly against Arnab. The phone and multiple discussions between Arnab and Partho Das Gupta were seized by Mumbai Police. These conversations, which revealed a strong relationship between Arnab and Partho Das Gupta and suggested TRP manipulation, were disclosed to the public. After the messages were made public, Gupta and Arnab faced harsh criticism and condemnation for their nefarious actions. Invoking stolen texts, the News Broadcaster of India urged that Indian Broadcasting Foundation suspend the Republic Media network. Arnab Goswami was the target of several legal lawsuits. submitted by maheshjtp to javatpointweb [link] [comments] |
2023.05.29 19:29 Taytay_Is_God Day 34 of Orange Cat. For more OC ask Alexa to Google “Garfield loves Jon Rule 34”
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2023.05.29 19:23 throwawaybreaks I was playing around in google sheets and confused myself, can someone ELI5?
So I don't remember why I was doing this, I'm terrible at math and occasionally poke it with a stick just to see if anything happens.
Any rate, I decided to break numbers from 1-200 down by digits*place, aka 113 would be 100+10+3, then use the command GCD to find their greatest common denominator.
In many cases, the GCD was one. I haven't yet found a case for the GCD being 1 where the number is not prime.
Is this some kind of rule or something? What is it called? I'm way too dumb to understand what I am looking at.
(mandatory disclaimer I am not doing this for school or anything that benefits me, I just got bored and started messing with spreadsheets)
normal notation xxx xx x hundreds place tens place singles place GCD 100s, 10s, 1s
1 0 0 1 0 0 1 1
2 0 0 2 0 0 2 2
3 0 0 3 0 0 3 3
4 0 0 4 0 0 4 4
5 0 0 5 0 0 5 5
6 0 0 6 0 0 6 6
7 0 0 7 0 0 7 7
8 0 0 8 0 0 8 8
9 0 9 0 0 9 9
10 0 1 0 0 10 0 10
11 0 1 1 0 10 1 1
12 0 1 2 0 10 2 2
13 0 1 3 0 10 3 1
14 0 1 4 0 10 4 2
15 0 1 5 0 10 5 5
16 1 6 0 10 6 2
17 1 7 0 10 7 1
18 1 8 0 10 8 2
19 1 9 0 10 9 1
20 2 0 0 20 0 20
21 2 1 0 20 1 1
22 2 2 0 20 2 2
23 2 3 0 20 3 1
24 2 4 0 20 4 4
25 2 5 0 20 5 5
26 2 6 0 20 6 2
27 2 7 0 20 7 1
28 2 8 0 20 8 4
29 2 9 0 20 9 1
30 3 0 0 30 0 30
31 3 1 0 30 1 1
32 3 2 0 30 2 2
33 3 3 0 30 3 3
34 3 4 0 30 4 2
35 3 5 0 30 5 5
36 3 6 0 30 6 6
37 3 7 0 30 7 1
38 3 8 0 30 8 2
39 3 9 0 30 9 3
40 4 0 0 40 0 40
41 4 1 0 40 1 1
42 4 2 0 40 2 2
43 4 3 0 40 3 1
44 4 4 0 40 4 4
45 4 5 0 40 5 5
46 4 6 0 40 6 2
47 4 7 0 40 7 1
48 4 8 0 40 8 8
49 4 9 0 40 9 1
50 5 0 0 50 0 50
51 5 1 0 50 1 1
52 5 2 0 50 2 2
53 5 3 0 50 3 1
54 5 4 0 50 4 2
55 5 5 0 50 5 5
56 5 6 0 50 6 2
57 5 7 0 50 7 1
58 5 8 0 50 8 2
59 5 9 0 50 9 1
60 6 0 0 60 0 60
61 6 1 0 60 1 1
62 6 2 0 60 2 2
63 6 3 0 60 3 3
64 6 4 0 60 4 4
65 6 5 0 60 5 5
66 6 6 0 60 6 6
67 6 7 0 60 7 1
68 6 8 0 60 8 4
69 6 9 0 60 9 3
70 7 0 0 70 0 70
71 7 1 0 70 1 1
72 7 2 0 70 2 2
73 7 3 0 70 3 1
74 7 4 0 70 4 2
75 7 5 0 70 5 5
76 7 6 0 70 6 2
77 7 7 0 70 7 7
78 7 8 0 70 8 2
79 7 9 0 70 9 1
80 8 0 0 80 0 80
81 8 1 0 80 1 1
82 8 2 0 80 2 2
83 8 3 0 80 3 1
84 8 4 0 80 4 4
85 8 5 0 80 5 5
86 8 6 0 80 6 2
87 8 7 0 80 7 1
88 8 8 0 80 8 8
89 8 9 0 80 9 1
90 9 0 0 90 0 90
91 9 1 0 90 1 1
92 9 2 0 90 2 2
93 9 3 0 90 3 3
94 9 4 0 90 4 2
95 9 5 0 90 5 5
96 9 6 0 90 6 6
97 9 7 0 90 7 1
98 9 8 0 90 8 2
99 9 9 0 90 9 9
100 1 0 0 100 0 0 100
101 1 0 1 100 0 1 1
102 1 0 2 100 0 2 2
103 1 0 3 100 0 3 1
104 1 0 4 100 0 4 4
105 1 0 5 100 0 5 5
106 1 0 6 100 0 6 2
107 1 0 7 100 0 7 1
108 1 0 8 100 0 8 4
109 1 0 9 100 0 9 1
110 1 1 0 100 10 0 10
111 1 1 1 100 10 1 1
112 1 1 2 100 10 2 2
113 1 1 3 100 10 3 1
114 1 1 4 100 10 4 2
115 1 1 5 100 10 5 5
116 1 1 6 100 10 6 2
117 1 1 7 100 10 7 1
118 1 1 8 100 10 8 2
119 1 1 9 100 10 9 1
120 1 2 0 100 20 0 20
121 1 2 1 100 20 1 1
122 1 2 2 100 20 2 2
123 1 2 3 100 20 3 1
124 1 2 4 100 20 4 4
125 1 2 5 100 20 5 5
126 1 2 6 100 20 6 2
127 1 2 7 100 20 7 1
128 1 2 8 100 20 8 4
129 1 2 9 100 20 9 1
130 1 3 0 100 30 0 10
131 1 3 1 100 30 1 1
132 1 3 2 100 30 2 2
133 1 3 3 100 30 3 1
134 1 3 4 100 30 4 2
135 1 3 5 100 30 5 5
136 1 3 6 100 30 6 2
137 1 3 7 100 30 7 1
138 1 3 8 100 30 8 2
139 1 3 9 100 30 9 1
140 1 4 0 100 40 0 20
141 1 4 1 100 40 1 1
142 1 4 2 100 40 2 2
143 1 4 3 100 40 3 1
144 1 4 4 100 40 4 4
145 1 4 5 100 40 5 5
146 1 4 6 100 40 6 2
147 1 4 7 100 40 7 1
148 1 4 8 100 40 8 4
149 1 4 9 100 40 9 1
150 1 5 0 100 50 0 50
151 1 5 1 100 50 1 1
152 1 5 2 100 50 2 2
153 1 5 3 100 50 3 1
154 1 5 4 100 50 4 2
155 1 5 5 100 50 5 5
156 1 5 6 100 50 6 2
157 1 5 7 100 50 7 1
158 1 5 8 100 50 8 2
159 1 5 9 100 50 9 1
160 1 6 0 100 60 0 20
161 1 6 1 100 60 1 1
162 1 6 2 100 60 2 2
163 1 6 3 100 60 3 1
164 1 6 4 100 60 4 4
165 1 6 5 100 60 5 5
166 1 6 6 100 60 6 2
167 1 6 7 100 60 7 1
168 1 6 8 100 60 8 4
169 1 6 9 100 60 9 1
170 1 7 0 100 70 0 10
171 1 7 1 100 70 1 1
172 1 7 2 100 70 2 2
173 1 7 3 100 70 3 1
174 1 7 4 100 70 4 2
175 1 7 5 100 70 5 5
176 1 7 6 100 70 6 2
177 1 7 7 100 70 7 1
178 1 7 8 100 70 8 2
179 1 7 9 100 70 9 1
180 1 8 0 100 80 0 20
181 1 8 1 100 80 1 1
182 1 8 2 100 80 2 2
183 1 8 3 100 80 3 1
184 1 8 4 100 80 4 4
185 1 8 5 100 80 5 5
186 1 8 6 100 80 6 2
187 1 8 7 100 80 7 1
188 1 8 8 100 80 8 4
189 1 8 9 100 80 9 1
190 1 9 0 100 90 0 10
191 1 9 1 100 90 1 1
192 1 9 2 100 90 2 2
193 1 9 3 100 90 3 1
194 1 9 4 100 90 4 2
195 1 9 5 100 90 5 5
196 1 9 6 100 90 6 2
197 1 9 7 100 90 7 1
198 1 9 8 100 90 8 2
199 1 9 9 100 90 9 1
200 2 0 0 200 0 0 200
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2023.05.29 19:15 M_Tootles The Recursive Homecomings Of Petyr & Theon Part 7: Sights-Seen While Sight-Seeing (Spoilers Extended)
This post is part of a series looking at the
massive amount of 'rhyming' (and occasionally
rhyming) recursivity I believe exists between (a) the homecoming of Petyr Baelish to the Fingers and (b) the homecoming of Theon Greyjoy to Pyke.
While this series/post can be read simply as a study 'for its own sake' of the curious recursion between these storylines, it is my belief that the 'rhyming' explored here between the stories of Petyr and Theon exists (at least in part) to foreshadow that,
like Theon, Petyr Littlefinger, is (among other things) a scion of ironborn kings, because Petyr is Hoare-ish: I.e. because Petyr's blood is (in some part) the blood of the ironborn kings of House Hoare of Orkmont and, later, Harrenhal.
You can find an index of every post I've made on the topic of a Hoare-ish Littlefinger [
HERE].
Even if I'm wrong about Littlefinger's lineage, the 'rhyming' recursivity between the homecomings of Theon and Petyr detailed in this series remains, and certainly merits attention. NOTE: In what follows, all uncited quotes are from ASOS Sansa VI, which describes Petyr's homecoming to his "Drearfort" tower of the 'Smallest Finger', or ACOK Theon I, which describes Theon's homecoming to "drear" Pyke.
As in past posts, I sometimes use "→" as shorthand for "prefigures" and/or "informs" and/or "is reworked by" and/or "finds a recursive 'rhyme' in".
As in: ACOK Theon I → ASOS Sansa VI.
This post picks up straight-away from where Part 6 left off. You can read Part 6 [HERE].
If you want to begin at the beginning, Part 1 is [HERE]. The other posts in this (sub)series are indexed at the link.
Theon's First Sight-Seeing Trip To The Deck of the Myraham → Petyr's Sight-Seeing Trip With Sansa
When Petyr and Sansa go on a sight-seeing tour of his lands, we read:
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said. There was one place where the tide came jetting up out of a blowhole to shoot thirty feet into the air, and another where someone had chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder. Petyr said that marked one of the places the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea to wrest the Vale from the First Men.
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog. "Mine own smallfolk," Petyr said, though only the oldest seemed to know him. There was a hermit's cave on his land as well, but no hermit. "He's dead now, but when I was a boy my father took me to see him. The man had not washed in forty years…
To me, much of that language from Petyr's 'sight-seeing tour' feels immediately like a kaleidoscopic, 'rhyming' recursion of what he read when Theon is standing on the deck of the Myraham in order to take in the sight of castle Pyke as the ship sails by:
The point of land on which the Greyjoys had raised their fortress had once thrust like a sword into the bowels of the ocean, but the waves had hammered at it day and night until the land broke and shattered, thousands of years past. All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
In an appendix, I attempt to map out in detail how this 'rhyming' works, but it's my hope that having read those passages, you can already 'smell' the 'rhyming', such that the appendix is skimmable overkill underlining a mostly-obvious point.
Here I'll just note a few highlights (all of which are further explained in the appendix):
- "bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" [on which the Greyjoys and their servants live] ➔ "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog"
- three bare and barren (as in infertile) islands in the sea → a blowhole where the tide "came jetting… to shoot thirty feet into the air", like a sperm whale
"three bare…" → "thirty feet…" [see: 'bare feet']
- "the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals… came… to wrest the Vale from the First Men"
Even the ironborn—the fierce, sea-roving warriors who must have at first thought themselves safe upon their isles—fell to the wave of Andal conquest. (TWOIAF)
- "the angry waves foamed and crashed among… a dozen towering stacks of rock… like the pillars of some sea god's temple" created when those "angry waves… hammered at… the point of land… thousands of years past" → "the Andals… came across the sea [and] landed… [and] chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder", thousands of years past
All That Remained
We're told that three rock islands and twelve stacks of rock, likened to "some sea god's temple", were "all that remained" of Pyke's sword-shaped penisula after the angry waves "hammered" it:
All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
This 'rhymes' first of all with Petyr's boulder "chiseled [with] the seven-pointed star of the new gods" being all that remains to "mark… the place… the Andals had landed" with their steel swords.
But it also 'rhymes' with and prefigures the "hermit's cave" (another rock formation!) being all that remains of the hermit that used to live on Petyr's land:
There was a hermit's cave on his land as well, but no hermit. "He's dead now…."
Notice that the Greyjoy rock formations (a) number three and twelve, which are highly significant numbers in Christianity (twelve apostles, holy trinity), and (b) are likened to "some sea god's temple". Petyr's hermit's cave thus 'answers' Pyke's 'temple', because hermits are traditionally associated with religion, especially Christianity. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit.)
Remained → Rained?
Consider also the lines that set the stage for the sight-seeing 'field trip' Petyr takes Sansa:
It was eight long days until Lysa Arryn arrived. On five of them it rained, while Sansa sat bored and restless by the fire, beside the old blind dog.
Compare with the line about the sea god's "temple":
All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
- Three barren islands remained → On five days of eight it rained (such that three rain-free — i.e. 'barren' — days remained)
- Angry waves foamed and crashed → days of rain + (mad, angry) Lysa Arryn (and her "storms") arrived
- structure: "while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "while Sansa sat bored and restless by the fire, beside the old dog"
"foamed and crashed" → "sat bored and restless"
"among them" → "by the fire, beside the old dog"
- numbers: three, twelve → eight, five
Sight-Seeing At Lordsport
After Theon takes in the sight of castle Pyke from the deck of the Myraham, he goes below deck, where he makes the captain's daughter swallow his "seed". He then tells her he'll be leaving her behind when they reach shore and goes back up on deck to take in the sight of Lordsport:
She looked at him stupidly, so he left her there.
The Myraham was rounding a wooded point. Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking. Theon moved to the bow for a better view.
Notice that Theon is pretty much explicitly sight seeing there (inasmuch as he "moved to the bow for a better view".)
Where Theon leaves the captain's daughter, whom he's grown bored of, to (in effect) go sight-seeing (which causes her to start crying), Petyr relieves the Hand's daughter's boredom by taking her sight-seeing (after it stops raining):
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said.
Theon's view as he comes on deck to survey the approach to Lordsport seems to (further) inform some of the things Petyr sees when walks around his rocky holding holdings with Sansa. Compare this—
The Myraham was rounding a wooded point. Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking.
—and this:
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog.
I'll detail this 'rhyme' in an appendix, but I hope you can already smell it. The bottom line(s):
- "The Myraham was rounding a wooded point" → "Petyr walked with her [i.e. Sansa] around his holdings" (where his holding are a rocky point)
- "Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking." → "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
tacking (cog) → tacky → sticky → peat bog (sticky place to get stuck)
Lords Botley & Baelish
Theon then sees the castle of Lord Botley:
He saw the castle first, the stronghold of the Botleys. When he was a boy it had been timber and wattle, but Robert Baratheon had razed that structure to the ground. Lord Sawane had rebuilt in stone, for now a small square keep crowned the hill. Pale green flags drooped from the squat corner towers, each emblazoned with a shoal of silvery fish.
The sight of the stone castle causes Theon to remember something from his boyhood that isn't there anymore (i.e. Lord Botley's old timber and wattle tower), much as the sight of the hermit's cave reminds Petyr of the hermit from his boyhood. And just as Petyr's hermit is missing, so is Lord Botley, who Theon think might come to meet him—
As the Myraham made her way landward, Theon paced the deck restlessly, scanning the shore. He had not thought to find Lord Balon himself at quayside, but surely his father would have sent someone to meet him. Sylas Sourmouth the steward, Lord Botley, perhaps even Dagmer Cleftjaw.
—but who does not.
Where Theon's sight-seeing entails a keep "rebuilt in stone" that triggers memories of Robert Baratheon's invasion, Petyr's sight-seeing entails a chiseled boulder that marks the spot of the Andal invasion of the Vale.
Where the first thing Theon sees as he approaches port is a "small" stone keep with "squat" towers, the first thing Petyr points out to Sansa as they approach land is his own "small", three-story stone tower.
It also 'just so happens' that Lord Botley's sigil—
a shoal of silvery fish on pale green
—prefigures both Petyr's current sigil—
a field of silver mockingbirds on green
—and, by virtue of being "pale green", the "light green" of Petyr's grandfather's sigil as well.
Lord Botley's name, "Sawane", reads almost like a phonetic spelling of [Samhain]. Given the 'rhyme' between the Botley and Baelish arms, this simply piles more fuel on the fire of Littlefinger being involved in some kind of religious heresy. (See my Littlefinger is Hoare-ish series.)
Finally, I wonder whether this line re: Botley's tower—
Robert Baratheon had razed that structure to the ground.
—may have informed this description of Baelish Tower:
A handful of sheep were wandering about the base of the flint tower, grazing on the thin grass that grew between the sheepfold and thatched stable. Sansa had to step carefully; there were pellets everywhere.
Dubious Protection, Animal-Ridden, Aswarm With Sh__.
The next line of ACOK Theon I continues the prefiguration of Petyr's homecoming — including quite specifically those "pellets everywhere" — in all kinds of ways:
Beneath the dubious protection of the fish-ridden little castle lay the village of Lordsport, its harbor aswarm with ships.
Where Lordsport is "aswarm with ships", the Drearfort's yard is aswarm with shit, so to speak. (Sheepshit.)
Where Botley's is a "fish-ridden little castle", the Drearfort has recently been rid of six of its sheep—
How many sheep do I have at present, Kella?"
… "Three and twenty, m'lord. There was nine and twenty, but Bryen's dogs killed one and we butchered some others and salted down the meat."
—and it's a 'dog-ridden little castle' for certain:
Each floor was but a single room. The servants lived and slept in the kitchen at ground level, sharing the space with a huge brindled mastiff and a half-dozen sheep-dogs.
Where Botley's stronghold offers "dubious protection", "guard" duty at the Drearfort is carried out by the 'dubious' tandem of an eighty-year old man and his dogs—
He looked to be at least eighty, but he wore a studded brigantine and a longsword at his side. …
"…Bryen—didn't I name you captain of the guard the last time I was here?"
"You did, my lord. You said you'd be getting some more men too, but you never did. Me and the dogs stand all the watches."
—dogs who are 'dubious protectors' of the very thing they're supposed to protect most: Petyr's "vast herds" of sheep:
"There was nine and twenty [sheep], but Bryen's dogs killed one…."
Invasions & The Faith
As Theon's sight-seeing continues, we are told all about Robert's invasion:
When last he'd seen Lordsport, it had been a smoking wasteland, the skeletons of burnt longships and smashed galleys littering the stony shore like the bones of dead leviathans, the houses no more than broken walls and cold ashes. After ten years, few traces of the war remained.
The reference to "leviathans" (i.e. whales) on "the stony shore" prefigures the whale-like "blowhole" on Petyr's (verbatim) "stony shore".
And where "few traces" of Robert's invasion "remained… after ten years", after thousands of years, "few traces" remain of the Andal invasion: just the boulder "chiseled" with "the seven-pointed star of the new gods" on Petyr's own bleak, desolate, unpopulated shore.
That chiseled holy boulder is prefigured by what Theon sees next: "cut stone" and the foundation of an abandoned sept.
The smallfolk had built new hovels with the stones of the old, and cut fresh sod for their roofs. A new inn had risen beside the landing, twice the size of the old one, with a lower story of cut stone and two upper stories of timber. The sept beyond had never been rebuilt, though; only a seven-sided foundation remained where it had stood. Robert Baratheon's fury had soured the ironmen's taste for the new gods, it would seem.
Just as the Faithful of the Seven have abandoned their sept, so have the holy warriors who chiseled the "star of the new gods" on Petyr's boulder long since moved on. (Nor is there any sign of the Faith at the Drearfort nor once Littlefinger accedes to rule the Eyrie.)
(Do the "hovels" of the smallfolk here presage the "huts" of Petyr's smallfolk, as well? The "new hovels" being "built… with the stones of the old" 'rhymes' with the "huts" on the Smallest Finger being made of "piled stone". And the "fresh sod" on their roofs 'rhymes' with the "peat bog" beside the Baelish "huts".)
Spiraling Recursion
Yes, I know: I'm pointing out multiple prefigurations and resonances for many things. E.g. Theon sees his dozen stacks of rock, then his dozen fishing boats, and both vignettes resonate with Petyr's dozen families and their huts, as do the hovels of Lordsport with their fresh sod roofs, perhaps. But that's the point, I think. The books are constantly recursive. Spirals upon spirals! There's a reason the triple spiral of House Massey — a house with almost no role in the story prior to ADWD — is singled out as "an ancient sigil for an ancient house" in TWOW Theon I. I suspect spirals are where it all began, in a way, in that recursivity is the core of GRRM's project in ASOIAF. The Song is all about 'rhyming'.
END
TO BE CONTINUED IN PART 8: Sylas Sourmouth & Silas Marner; Theon's Uncle & Petyr's Hermit; Petyr Pan & Wendamyr Darling
APPENDIX TO MAIN POST
Appendix
This appendix will further breakdown and detail a few major 'rhymes' between Theon's sight-seeing trips to the deck of the Myraham and Petyr's sight-seeing tour of his lands, as mentioned in the main body of the post. It's hopefully superfluous overkill as regards establishing the general resonance between the passages in question, but it may nevertheless be of interest to those interested in going down the rabbit-hole, so to speak.
Theon's First Sight-Seeing Trip To The Deck of the Myraham → Petyr's Sight-Seeing Trip With Sansa
When Theon is standing on the deck of the Myraham in order to take in the sight of castle Pyke as the ship sails by, we read:
The point of land on which the Greyjoys had raised their fortress had once thrust like a sword into the bowels of the ocean, but the waves had hammered at it day and night until the land broke and shattered, thousands of years past. All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
When Petyr and Sansa go on a sight-seeing tour of his lands, we read:
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said. There was one place where the tide came jetting up out of a blowhole to shoot thirty feet into the air, and another where someone had chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder. Petyr said that marked one of the places the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea to wrest the Vale from the First Men.
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog. "Mine own smallfolk," Petyr said, though only the oldest seemed to know him. There was a hermit's cave on his land as well, but no hermit. "He's dead now, but when I was a boy my father took me to see him. The man had not washed in forty years…
In what follows, I'll map some ways in which the bolded language from Petyr's homecoming feels like it could be a kaleidoscopic recursion of the bolded langauge from Theon's homecoming.
(Again, in what follows, "→" means "prefigures" and/or "informs" and/or "is reworked by" and/or "finds a recursive 'rhyme' in".)
A Dozen Stacks of Rock, A Dozen Huts of Piled Stone
"bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" ➔ "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
How so?
Consider…
bare and barren islands → farther inland
- islands → inland
- bar- and bar- → far-
- bare and (furthermore a.k.a. farthermore) barren → farther
- thus: bare and barren islands → farther inland
towering stacks of rock → huts of piled stone
- towering ≈ towers → huts
- stacks of rock ≈ piles of stone → piled stone
- thus: towering stacks of rock → huts of piled stone
a dozen towering stacks of rock → a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone
- a dozen → a dozen
- towering stacks of rock → huts of piled stone (see above)
- families (Greyjoy and servants) live on those towering stacks of rock
- thus: a dozen towering stacks of rock → a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone
the stacks of rock rose from the sea → the huts of piled stone rose by the peat
- the "stacks of rock that rose from the water" ≈ the stacks of rock rose from the sea
- "huts of piled stone beside a peat bog" ≈ the huts of piled stone rose by the peat
- thus: the stacks of rock rose from the sea → the huts of piled stone rose by the peat
And thus…
"bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" ➔ "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
The Stacks of Rock Come Round Again
- "towering stacks of rock" (where 'stacks' connotes money/wealth and where it sounds like rocks are stacked like coins) → Petyr "owned a lot of rocks"
- "a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" → "the tide came jetting up… to shoot [as if fired from a gun] thirty feet into the air"
"dozen" → "thirty"
"rock" & "water" → (implied) fire & "air"
"rock that rose from the water" → "tide came jetting up… into the air"
Three & Thirty
- "three bare…" → "thirty feet…"
three → thirty
bare → feet [as in 'bare feet']
- three bare and barren (as in infertile) islands in the sea → a blowhole where the tide "came jetting… to shoot thirty feet into the air", like a sperm whale
Angry Waves & Andals
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals… came… to wrest the Vale from the First Men"
How so?
Consider…
- "the angry waves" → the Andals… came across the sea"
confirmed by the wave of Andal conquest in TWOIAF:
Even the ironborn—the fierce, sea-roving warriors who must have at first thought themselves safe upon their isles—fell to the wave of Andal conquest.
- "foamed and crashed" → "to wrest"
- "them" = Pyke's "towering stacks of rock" on which ironborn kings live → the mountainous Vale in which First Men kings lived
And thus…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals… came… to wrest the Vale from the First Men"
Angry Waves & Andals 2
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea … [and] chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder"
How so?
Consider…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed" → "the Andals… came across the sea [and] landed"
- "the angry waves" → the Andals, who "came across the sea"
- "crashed" → "landed" ('crash-landed')
- thus: "the angry waves foamed and crashed" → "the Andals… came across the sea [and] landed"
Consider also…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" = the angry waves crashed among…
…a dozen towering stacks of rock… like the pillars of some sea god's temple…
…created when the angry waves…
…hammered at… the point of land… thousands of years past.
- the angry waves "hammered" → the Andals "chiseled"
- "point of land" → "pointed star"
- Pyke's "point of land" was "hammered" into a dozen stacks of rock → Petyr's boulder was "chiseled" with a seven-pointed star
- "some sea god" → "the new gods"
- "some sea god's temple" → the sign "of the new gods"
- one (point), three (islands), a dozen (stacks) → seven (sacred numbers)
- thus: "the angry waves… hammered… the point of land" into "a dozen… stacks of rock… like the pillars of some sea god's temple… thousands of years past…" ➔ "the Andals… chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder", thousands of years past per ADWD Jaime I:
Only no one knows when the Andals crossed the narrow sea. The True History says four thousand years have passed since then, but some maesters claim that it was only two. (ADWD Jaime I)
And thus…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea … [and] chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder"
Sight-Seeing At Lordsport Redux
In the body of the essay, I talked about how this bit of Theon's approach to Lordsport—
She looked at him stupidly, so he left her there.
The Myraham was rounding a wooded point. Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking. Theon moved to the bow for a better view.
—prefigures in particular two passages from Petyr's sight-seeing tour:
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said.
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog.
Consider:
"The Myraham was rounding a wooded point" → "Petyr walked with her [i.e. Sansa] around his holdings" (a rocky point)
- The Myraham carries Theon and the captain's daughter
- Theon & the captain's daughter (child-groomer and his prey) → Petyr & Sansa (child-groomer and his prey)
- thus: The Myraham → Petyr & Sansa
- "The Myraham was rounding…" → "Petyr walked with her [Sansa] around…"
- Petyr's "holdings" ≈ "He owned a lot of rocks" ≈ rocky, and…
- Petyr's "holdings" ≈ the Smallest Finger, and…
- the Smallest Finger ≈ a point of land, and fingers point, so…
- Petyr's "holdings" ≈ a rocky point
- a wooded point → a rocky point, so…
- "a wooded point" → "his holdings" (a rocky point)
- thus: "The Myraham was rounding a wooded point" → "Petyr walked with her around his holdings" (a rocky point)
And consider:
"Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking." → "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
There's a fair bit of overdetermination here.
- a dozen fishing boats → a dozen families
- pulling in their nets → liv[ing] in [their] huts
- a dozen fishing boats pulling in their nets → a dozen families living in their huts
- "huts of piled stone" ≈ piled stone huts, so…
- pine-clad bluffs → piled stone huts
- a dozen fishing boats pulling in their nets below the pine-clad bluffs → a dozen families living in their piled stone huts
Given that "Bog devils" are fishing geniuses who wield nets…
- fishing (boats) and/or nets → peat bogs
- pine-clad bluffs → peat bog
- thus: "a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets… below the pine clad bluffs" → a dozen families were living in their piled stone huts beside a peat bog
But also re:
The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking.
- big cog → peat bog
- b-ig c-og → bog
- tacking ≈ tacky ≈ sticky ≈ getting stuck
- bog ≈ place to get stuck:
Sansa shuddered. They had been twelve days crossing the Neck, rumbling down a crooked causeway through an endless black bog, and she had hated every moment of it. [I]f you were stupid enough to leave the causeway to pluck them, there were quicksands waiting to suck you down…. (Note the literal rhyming wordplay: pluck/suck.) (AGOT Sansa I)
"The bogs here are impenetrable, full of quicksands and suckholes (lol)…. To assault any of the towers, an army would need to wade through waist-deep black muck…." (AGOT Catelyn VIII)
- so: big cog tacking → peat bog
- the big cog tacking "stayed well out" from the fishing boats → the peat bog being "farther inland"
but also…
- The fishing boats being perforce well in (toward land) from the big cog → the families huts lying "farther inland" besides the peat bog
Thus we might say…
- Well in from the tacking big cog, "a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets… below the pine clad bluffs" ➔ Farther inland, beside the peat bog, a dozen families were living in their piled stone huts
and/or…
- The big cog stayed well out from the dozen fishing boats pulling in their nets below the pine clad bluffs ➔ Farther inland, a dozen families were living in their piled stone huts beside the peat bog
Anyway, however you care to slice it, this—
"Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking."
—can be read as 'rhyming' with and recursively prefiguring this:
"Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
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2023.05.29 19:13 M_Tootles The Recursive Homecomings Of Petyr & Theon Part 7: Sights-Seen While Sight-Seeing (Spoilers TWOW)
This post is part of a series looking at the
massive amount of 'rhyming' (and occasionally
rhyming) recursivity I believe exists between (a) the homecoming of Petyr Baelish to the Fingers and (b) the homecoming of Theon Greyjoy to Pyke.
While this series/post can be read simply as a study 'for its own sake' of the curious recursion between these storylines, it is my belief that the 'rhyming' explored here between the stories of Petyr and Theon exists (at least in part) to foreshadow that,
like Theon, Petyr Littlefinger, is (among other things) a scion of ironborn kings, because Petyr is Hoare-ish: I.e. because Petyr's blood is (in some part) the blood of the ironborn kings of House Hoare of Orkmont and, later, Harrenhal.
You can find an index of every post I've made on the topic of a Hoare-ish Littlefinger [
HERE].
Even if I'm wrong about Littlefinger's lineage, the 'rhyming' recursivity between the homecomings of Theon and Petyr detailed in this series remains, and certainly merits attention. NOTE: In what follows, all uncited quotes are from ASOS Sansa VI, which describes Petyr's homecoming to his "Drearfort" tower of the 'Smallest Finger', or ACOK Theon I, which describes Theon's homecoming to "drear" Pyke.
As in past posts, I sometimes use "→" as shorthand for "prefigures" and/or "informs" and/or "is reworked by" and/or "finds a recursive 'rhyme' in".
As in: ACOK Theon I → ASOS Sansa VI.
This post picks up straight-away from where Part 6 left off. You can read Part 6 [HERE].
If you want to begin at the beginning, Part 1 is [HERE]. The other posts in this (sub)series are indexed at the link.
Theon's First Sight-Seeing Trip To The Deck of the Myraham → Petyr's Sight-Seeing Trip With Sansa
When Petyr and Sansa go on a sight-seeing tour of his lands, we read:
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said. There was one place where the tide came jetting up out of a blowhole to shoot thirty feet into the air, and another where someone had chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder. Petyr said that marked one of the places the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea to wrest the Vale from the First Men.
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog. "Mine own smallfolk," Petyr said, though only the oldest seemed to know him. There was a hermit's cave on his land as well, but no hermit. "He's dead now, but when I was a boy my father took me to see him. The man had not washed in forty years…
To me, much of that language from Petyr's 'sight-seeing tour' feels immediately like a kaleidoscopic, 'rhyming' recursion of what he read when Theon is standing on the deck of the Myraham in order to take in the sight of castle Pyke as the ship sails by:
The point of land on which the Greyjoys had raised their fortress had once thrust like a sword into the bowels of the ocean, but the waves had hammered at it day and night until the land broke and shattered, thousands of years past. All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
In an appendix, I attempt to map out in detail how this 'rhyming' works, but it's my hope that having read those passages, you can already 'smell' the 'rhyming', such that the appendix is skimmable overkill underlining a mostly-obvious point.
Here I'll just note a few highlights (all of which are further explained in the appendix):
- "bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" [on which the Greyjoys and their servants live] ➔ "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog"
- three bare and barren (as in infertile) islands in the sea → a blowhole where the tide "came jetting… to shoot thirty feet into the air", like a sperm whale
"three bare…" → "thirty feet…" [see: 'bare feet']
- "the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals… came… to wrest the Vale from the First Men"
Even the ironborn—the fierce, sea-roving warriors who must have at first thought themselves safe upon their isles—fell to the wave of Andal conquest. (TWOIAF)
- "the angry waves foamed and crashed among… a dozen towering stacks of rock… like the pillars of some sea god's temple" created when those "angry waves… hammered at… the point of land… thousands of years past" → "the Andals… came across the sea [and] landed… [and] chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder", thousands of years past
All That Remained
We're told that three rock islands and twelve stacks of rock, likened to "some sea god's temple", were "all that remained" of Pyke's sword-shaped penisula after the angry waves "hammered" it:
All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
This 'rhymes' first of all with Petyr's boulder "chiseled [with] the seven-pointed star of the new gods" being all that remains to "mark… the place… the Andals had landed" with their steel swords.
But it also 'rhymes' with and prefigures the "hermit's cave" (another rock formation!) being all that remains of the hermit that used to live on Petyr's land:
There was a hermit's cave on his land as well, but no hermit. "He's dead now…."
Notice that the Greyjoy rock formations (a) number three and twelve, which are highly significant numbers in Christianity (twelve apostles, holy trinity), and (b) are likened to "some sea god's temple". Petyr's hermit's cave thus 'answers' Pyke's 'temple', because hermits are traditionally associated with religion, especially Christianity. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit.)
Remained → Rained?
Consider also the lines that set the stage for the sight-seeing 'field trip' Petyr takes Sansa:
It was eight long days until Lysa Arryn arrived. On five of them it rained, while Sansa sat bored and restless by the fire, beside the old blind dog.
Compare with the line about the sea god's "temple":
All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
- Three barren islands remained → On five days of eight it rained (such that three rain-free — i.e. 'barren' — days remained)
- Angry waves foamed and crashed → days of rain + (mad, angry) Lysa Arryn (and her "storms") arrived
- structure: "while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "while Sansa sat bored and restless by the fire, beside the old dog"
"foamed and crashed" → "sat bored and restless"
"among them" → "by the fire, beside the old dog"
- numbers: three, twelve → eight, five
Sight-Seeing At Lordsport
After Theon takes in the sight of castle Pyke from the deck of the Myraham, he goes below deck, where he makes the captain's daughter swallow his "seed". He then tells her he'll be leaving her behind when they reach shore and goes back up on deck to take in the sight of Lordsport:
She looked at him stupidly, so he left her there.
The Myraham was rounding a wooded point. Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking. Theon moved to the bow for a better view.
Notice that Theon is pretty much explicitly sight seeing there (inasmuch as he "moved to the bow for a better view".)
Where Theon leaves the captain's daughter, whom he's grown bored of, to (in effect) go sight-seeing (which causes her to start crying), Petyr relieves the Hand's daughter's boredom by taking her sight-seeing (after it stops raining):
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said.
Theon's view as he comes on deck to survey the approach to Lordsport seems to (further) inform some of the things Petyr sees when walks around his rocky holding holdings with Sansa. Compare this—
The Myraham was rounding a wooded point. Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking.
—and this:
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog.
I'll detail this 'rhyme' in an appendix, but I hope you can already smell it. The bottom line(s):
- "The Myraham was rounding a wooded point" → "Petyr walked with her [i.e. Sansa] around his holdings" (where his holding are a rocky point)
- "Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking." → "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
tacking (cog) → tacky → sticky → peat bog (sticky place to get stuck)
Lords Botley & Baelish
Theon then sees the castle of Lord Botley:
He saw the castle first, the stronghold of the Botleys. When he was a boy it had been timber and wattle, but Robert Baratheon had razed that structure to the ground. Lord Sawane had rebuilt in stone, for now a small square keep crowned the hill. Pale green flags drooped from the squat corner towers, each emblazoned with a shoal of silvery fish.
The sight of the stone castle causes Theon to remember something from his boyhood that isn't there anymore (i.e. Lord Botley's old timber and wattle tower), much as the sight of the hermit's cave reminds Petyr of the hermit from his boyhood. And just as Petyr's hermit is missing, so is Lord Botley, who Theon think might come to meet him—
As the Myraham made her way landward, Theon paced the deck restlessly, scanning the shore. He had not thought to find Lord Balon himself at quayside, but surely his father would have sent someone to meet him. Sylas Sourmouth the steward, Lord Botley, perhaps even Dagmer Cleftjaw.
—but who does not.
Where Theon's sight-seeing entails a keep "rebuilt in stone" that triggers memories of Robert Baratheon's invasion, Petyr's sight-seeing entails a chiseled boulder that marks the spot of the Andal invasion of the Vale.
Where the first thing Theon sees as he approaches port is a "small" stone keep with "squat" towers, the first thing Petyr points out to Sansa as they approach land is his own "small", three-story stone tower.
It also 'just so happens' that Lord Botley's sigil—
a shoal of silvery fish on pale green
—prefigures both Petyr's current sigil—
a field of silver mockingbirds on green
—and, by virtue of being "pale green", the "light green" of Petyr's grandfather's sigil as well.
Lord Botley's name, "Sawane", reads almost like a phonetic spelling of [Samhain]. Given the 'rhyme' between the Botley and Baelish arms, this simply piles more fuel on the fire of Littlefinger being involved in some kind of religious heresy. (See my Littlefinger is Hoare-ish series.)
Finally, I wonder whether this line re: Botley's tower—
Robert Baratheon had razed that structure to the ground.
—may have informed this description of Baelish Tower:
A handful of sheep were wandering about the base of the flint tower, grazing on the thin grass that grew between the sheepfold and thatched stable. Sansa had to step carefully; there were pellets everywhere.
Dubious Protection, Animal-Ridden, Aswarm With Sh__.
The next line of ACOK Theon I continues the prefiguration of Petyr's homecoming — including quite specifically those "pellets everywhere" — in all kinds of ways:
Beneath the dubious protection of the fish-ridden little castle lay the village of Lordsport, its harbor aswarm with ships.
Where Lordsport is "aswarm with ships", the Drearfort's yard is aswarm with shit, so to speak. (Sheepshit.)
Where Botley's is a "fish-ridden little castle", the Drearfort has recently been rid of six of its sheep—
How many sheep do I have at present, Kella?"
… "Three and twenty, m'lord. There was nine and twenty, but Bryen's dogs killed one and we butchered some others and salted down the meat."
—and it's a 'dog-ridden little castle' for certain:
Each floor was but a single room. The servants lived and slept in the kitchen at ground level, sharing the space with a huge brindled mastiff and a half-dozen sheep-dogs.
Where Botley's stronghold offers "dubious protection", "guard" duty at the Drearfort is carried out by the 'dubious' tandem of an eighty-year old man and his dogs—
He looked to be at least eighty, but he wore a studded brigantine and a longsword at his side. …
"…Bryen—didn't I name you captain of the guard the last time I was here?"
"You did, my lord. You said you'd be getting some more men too, but you never did. Me and the dogs stand all the watches."
—dogs who are 'dubious protectors' of the very thing they're supposed to protect most: Petyr's "vast herds" of sheep:
"There was nine and twenty [sheep], but Bryen's dogs killed one…."
Invasions & The Faith
As Theon's sight-seeing continues, we are told all about Robert's invasion:
When last he'd seen Lordsport, it had been a smoking wasteland, the skeletons of burnt longships and smashed galleys littering the stony shore like the bones of dead leviathans, the houses no more than broken walls and cold ashes. After ten years, few traces of the war remained.
The reference to "leviathans" (i.e. whales) on "the stony shore" prefigures the whale-like "blowhole" on Petyr's (verbatim) "stony shore".
And where "few traces" of Robert's invasion "remained… after ten years", after thousands of years, "few traces" remain of the Andal invasion: just the boulder "chiseled" with "the seven-pointed star of the new gods" on Petyr's own bleak, desolate, unpopulated shore.
That chiseled holy boulder is prefigured by what Theon sees next: "cut stone" and the foundation of an abandoned sept.
The smallfolk had built new hovels with the stones of the old, and cut fresh sod for their roofs. A new inn had risen beside the landing, twice the size of the old one, with a lower story of cut stone and two upper stories of timber. The sept beyond had never been rebuilt, though; only a seven-sided foundation remained where it had stood. Robert Baratheon's fury had soured the ironmen's taste for the new gods, it would seem.
Just as the Faithful of the Seven have abandoned their sept, so have the holy warriors who chiseled the "star of the new gods" on Petyr's boulder long since moved on. (Nor is there any sign of the Faith at the Drearfort nor once Littlefinger accedes to rule the Eyrie.)
(Do the "hovels" of the smallfolk here presage the "huts" of Petyr's smallfolk, as well? The "new hovels" being "built… with the stones of the old" 'rhymes' with the "huts" on the Smallest Finger being made of "piled stone". And the "fresh sod" on their roofs 'rhymes' with the "peat bog" beside the Baelish "huts".)
Spiraling Recursion
Yes, I know: I'm pointing out multiple prefigurations and resonances for many things. E.g. Theon sees his dozen stacks of rock, then his dozen fishing boats, and both vignettes resonate with Petyr's dozen families and their huts, as do the hovels of Lordsport with their fresh sod roofs, perhaps. But that's the point, I think. The books are constantly recursive. Spirals upon spirals! There's a reason the triple spiral of House Massey — a house with almost no role in the story prior to ADWD — is singled out as "an ancient sigil for an ancient house" in TWOW Theon I. I suspect spirals are where it all began, in a way, in that recursivity is the core of GRRM's project in ASOIAF. The Song is all about 'rhyming'.
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TO BE CONTINUED IN PART 8: Sylas Sourmouth & Silas Marner; Theon's Uncle & Petyr's Hermit; Petyr Pan & Wendamyr Darling
APPENDIX TO MAIN POST
Appendix
This appendix will further breakdown and detail a few major 'rhymes' between Theon's sight-seeing trips to the deck of the Myraham and Petyr's sight-seeing tour of his lands, as mentioned in the main body of the post. It's hopefully superfluous overkill as regards establishing the general resonance between the passages in question, but it may nevertheless be of interest to those interested in going down the rabbit-hole, so to speak.
Theon's First Sight-Seeing Trip To The Deck of the Myraham → Petyr's Sight-Seeing Trip With Sansa
When Theon is standing on the deck of the Myraham in order to take in the sight of castle Pyke as the ship sails by, we read:
The point of land on which the Greyjoys had raised their fortress had once thrust like a sword into the bowels of the ocean, but the waves had hammered at it day and night until the land broke and shattered, thousands of years past. All that remained were three bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water like the pillars of some sea god's temple, while the angry waves foamed and crashed among them.
When Petyr and Sansa go on a sight-seeing tour of his lands, we read:
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said. There was one place where the tide came jetting up out of a blowhole to shoot thirty feet into the air, and another where someone had chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder. Petyr said that marked one of the places the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea to wrest the Vale from the First Men.
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog. "Mine own smallfolk," Petyr said, though only the oldest seemed to know him. There was a hermit's cave on his land as well, but no hermit. "He's dead now, but when I was a boy my father took me to see him. The man had not washed in forty years…
In what follows, I'll map some ways in which the bolded language from Petyr's homecoming feels like it could be a kaleidoscopic recursion of the bolded langauge from Theon's homecoming.
(Again, in what follows, "→" means "prefigures" and/or "informs" and/or "is reworked by" and/or "finds a recursive 'rhyme' in".)
A Dozen Stacks of Rock, A Dozen Huts of Piled Stone
"bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" ➔ "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
How so?
Consider…
bare and barren islands → farther inland
- islands → inland
- bar- and bar- → far-
- bare and (furthermore a.k.a. farthermore) barren → farther
- thus: bare and barren islands → farther inland
towering stacks of rock → huts of piled stone
- towering ≈ towers → huts
- stacks of rock ≈ piles of stone → piled stone
- thus: towering stacks of rock → huts of piled stone
a dozen towering stacks of rock → a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone
- a dozen → a dozen
- towering stacks of rock → huts of piled stone (see above)
- families (Greyjoy and servants) live on those towering stacks of rock
- thus: a dozen towering stacks of rock → a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone
the stacks of rock rose from the sea → the huts of piled stone rose by the peat
- the "stacks of rock that rose from the water" ≈ the stacks of rock rose from the sea
- "huts of piled stone beside a peat bog" ≈ the huts of piled stone rose by the peat
- thus: the stacks of rock rose from the sea → the huts of piled stone rose by the peat
And thus…
"bare and barren islands and a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" ➔ "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
The Stacks of Rock Come Round Again
- "towering stacks of rock" (where 'stacks' connotes money/wealth and where it sounds like rocks are stacked like coins) → Petyr "owned a lot of rocks"
- "a dozen towering stacks of rock that rose from the water" → "the tide came jetting up… to shoot [as if fired from a gun] thirty feet into the air"
"dozen" → "thirty"
"rock" & "water" → (implied) fire & "air"
"rock that rose from the water" → "tide came jetting up… into the air"
Three & Thirty
- "three bare…" → "thirty feet…"
three → thirty
bare → feet [as in 'bare feet']
- three bare and barren (as in infertile) islands in the sea → a blowhole where the tide "came jetting… to shoot thirty feet into the air", like a sperm whale
Angry Waves & Andals
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals… came… to wrest the Vale from the First Men"
How so?
Consider…
- "the angry waves" → the Andals… came across the sea"
confirmed by the wave of Andal conquest in TWOIAF:
Even the ironborn—the fierce, sea-roving warriors who must have at first thought themselves safe upon their isles—fell to the wave of Andal conquest.
- "foamed and crashed" → "to wrest"
- "them" = Pyke's "towering stacks of rock" on which ironborn kings live → the mountainous Vale in which First Men kings lived
And thus…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals… came… to wrest the Vale from the First Men"
Angry Waves & Andals 2
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea … [and] chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder"
How so?
Consider…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed" → "the Andals… came across the sea [and] landed"
- "the angry waves" → the Andals, who "came across the sea"
- "crashed" → "landed" ('crash-landed')
- thus: "the angry waves foamed and crashed" → "the Andals… came across the sea [and] landed"
Consider also…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" = the angry waves crashed among…
…a dozen towering stacks of rock… like the pillars of some sea god's temple…
…created when the angry waves…
…hammered at… the point of land… thousands of years past.
- the angry waves "hammered" → the Andals "chiseled"
- "point of land" → "pointed star"
- Pyke's "point of land" was "hammered" into a dozen stacks of rock → Petyr's boulder was "chiseled" with a seven-pointed star
- "some sea god" → "the new gods"
- "some sea god's temple" → the sign "of the new gods"
- one (point), three (islands), a dozen (stacks) → seven (sacred numbers)
- thus: "the angry waves… hammered… the point of land" into "a dozen… stacks of rock… like the pillars of some sea god's temple… thousands of years past…" ➔ "the Andals… chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder", thousands of years past per ADWD Jaime I:
Only no one knows when the Andals crossed the narrow sea. The True History says four thousand years have passed since then, but some maesters claim that it was only two. (ADWD Jaime I)
And thus…
"the angry waves foamed and crashed among them" → "the Andals had landed, when they came across the sea … [and] chiseled the seven-pointed star of the new gods upon a boulder"
Sight-Seeing At Lordsport Redux
In the body of the essay, I talked about how this bit of Theon's approach to Lordsport—
She looked at him stupidly, so he left her there.
The Myraham was rounding a wooded point. Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking. Theon moved to the bow for a better view.
—prefigures in particular two passages from Petyr's sight-seeing tour:
When the rains let up, Petyr walked with her around his holdings, which took less than half a day. He owned a lot of rocks, just as he had said.
Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog.
Consider:
"The Myraham was rounding a wooded point" → "Petyr walked with her [i.e. Sansa] around his holdings" (a rocky point)
- The Myraham carries Theon and the captain's daughter
- Theon & the captain's daughter (child-groomer and his prey) → Petyr & Sansa (child-groomer and his prey)
- thus: The Myraham → Petyr & Sansa
- "The Myraham was rounding…" → "Petyr walked with her [Sansa] around…"
- Petyr's "holdings" ≈ "He owned a lot of rocks" ≈ rocky, and…
- Petyr's "holdings" ≈ the Smallest Finger, and…
- the Smallest Finger ≈ a point of land, and fingers point, so…
- Petyr's "holdings" ≈ a rocky point
- a wooded point → a rocky point, so…
- "a wooded point" → "his holdings" (a rocky point)
- thus: "The Myraham was rounding a wooded point" → "Petyr walked with her around his holdings" (a rocky point)
And consider:
"Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking." → "Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
There's a fair bit of overdetermination here.
- a dozen fishing boats → a dozen families
- pulling in their nets → liv[ing] in [their] huts
- a dozen fishing boats pulling in their nets → a dozen families living in their huts
- "huts of piled stone" ≈ piled stone huts, so…
- pine-clad bluffs → piled stone huts
- a dozen fishing boats pulling in their nets below the pine-clad bluffs → a dozen families living in their piled stone huts
Given that "Bog devils" are fishing geniuses who wield nets…
- fishing (boats) and/or nets → peat bogs
- pine-clad bluffs → peat bog
- thus: "a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets… below the pine clad bluffs" → a dozen families were living in their piled stone huts beside a peat bog
But also re:
The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking.
- big cog → peat bog
- b-ig c-og → bog
- tacking ≈ tacky ≈ sticky ≈ getting stuck
- bog ≈ place to get stuck:
Sansa shuddered. They had been twelve days crossing the Neck, rumbling down a crooked causeway through an endless black bog, and she had hated every moment of it. [I]f you were stupid enough to leave the causeway to pluck them, there were quicksands waiting to suck you down…. (Note the literal rhyming wordplay: pluck/suck.) (AGOT Sansa I)
"The bogs here are impenetrable, full of quicksands and suckholes (lol)…. To assault any of the towers, an army would need to wade through waist-deep black muck…." (AGOT Catelyn VIII)
- so: big cog tacking → peat bog
- the big cog tacking "stayed well out" from the fishing boats → the peat bog being "farther inland"
but also…
- The fishing boats being perforce well in (toward land) from the big cog → the families huts lying "farther inland" besides the peat bog
Thus we might say…
- Well in from the tacking big cog, "a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets… below the pine clad bluffs" ➔ Farther inland, beside the peat bog, a dozen families were living in their piled stone huts
and/or…
- The big cog stayed well out from the dozen fishing boats pulling in their nets below the pine clad bluffs ➔ Farther inland, a dozen families were living in their piled stone huts beside the peat bog
Anyway, however you care to slice it, this—
"Below the pine-clad bluffs, a dozen fishing boats were pulling in their nets. The big cog stayed well out from them, tacking."
—can be read as 'rhyming' with and recursively prefiguring this:
"Farther inland a dozen families lived in huts of piled stone beside a peat bog."
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2023.05.29 18:19 Nolifeking00 Dickamations for June 3rd, 2023: I'm Not Bad, I'm Just CGI'd That Way
Villains, some misunderstood, some dangerous all interesting. Tonight we will be spotlighting the anti-villain. Starting off with Despicable Me aka the movie that introduced the world to minions. The world was fovever corrupted by the their existance. Next up is Megamind it answers the question what if Lex Luthor accidentally kills Superman and rules the world. Apparently you turn into a good guy for some reason. Finishing off the night with Wreck-it Ralph. A movie where having a catch phrase I'm gonna wreck-it is not related to porn. The story is basically what if Donkey Kong hated his job and wanted to be a good guy. I guess you team up or Sarah Silverman and have adventures in the video game world. It is kind of like ready player one with Sarah Silvermen, which is a godawful idea, except it doesn't suck, but Sarah Silverman always will.
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Despicable Me [2010 (1:34:40)] When a criminal mastermind uses a trio of orphan girls as pawns for a grand scheme, he finds their love is profoundly changing him for the better.
Megamind [2010 (1:35:34)] Evil genius Megamind finally defeats his do-gooder nemesis, Metro Man, but is left without a purpose in a superhero-free world.
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2023.05.29 18:08 matZmaker99 [S23 Spoilers] Why is the general public so quick to dismiss logical fallacies? Someone's whereabouts.
Many arguments are hand-waved just by the phrase "it's a game about space magic", and while it's true that there's an abundance of supernatural elements, that doesn't mean that the world works without rules.
The most recent example of this is the location of Oryx's cadaver in the depths of Titan's methane sea. The issue here is that this placement does not make sense: We all know bigger things have stronger gravity. Saturn has over 1000 times the gravitational pull of Titan; the Dreadnaught is found amidst the rings of Saturn, which are considerably closer to the planet than its moons; and when we finally kill Oryx, his body is seen falling planet-side, trapped in its gravity.
Some might argue about the wild difference between Destiny and irl gravity planets have, or their fantasy flora, etc. But that is explained through the Traveler's terraforming, enabling a selective gravity and human-breathable atmospheres to harbor new life. And that is a possible feat because that's what Light does, and the Traveler was concentrating its efforts on doing it. Oryx on the other side was in complete freefall and killed inside his throne world, and wings don't work in space where there's not an atmosphere.
EDIT: Reading the comments, I found how to articulate it further: It's more fun to discuss and talk about how this could've happened, like through the hands of Savathûn's plan, Oryx being flung into orbit because of tangential velocity and crashing into Titan, an intervention of the Nine, etc. The hard-stop of "it's science fantasy/space magic, don't think about it" is just a boring wall of nothing.
I'd like to spark discussion about for and against these arguments, to see and maybe understand the other side, and get a better comprehension of this as I've yet to reach a better level of articulation. I wanna hear what you got!
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2023.05.29 18:05 CLEBot [Game Thread] Guardians (23-29) @ Orioles (34-19) - May 29, 2023
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Fielding alignment for Baltimore, May 29 vs Guardians | 0:11 | Video |
Breaking down Tyler Wells's pitches | 0:08 | Video |
Tyler Wells's outing against the Guardians | 0:23 | Video |
Logan Allen's outing against the Orioles | 0:23 | Video |
Breaking down Logan Allen's pitches | 0:08 | Video |
Logan Allen escapes the jam in the 4th | 0:07 | Video |
Cam Gallagher hits a sacrifice fly in the 5th | 0:18 | Video |
World War 2 veteran Willaim Keyes joins the broadcast | 4:21 | Video |
Tyler Wells fans Josh Naylor in the top of the 6th | 0:14 | Video |
Cam Gallagher smacks an RBI single to right | 0:17 | Video |
Steven Kwan slaps an RBI double to center | 0:19 | Video |
Gabriel Arias makes the diving play at 3rd | 0:11 | Video |
Fielders' Choice plates two | 0:21 | Video |
Mychal Givens flips to first for the out | 0:09 | Video |
Logan Allen fans Ryan McKenna in the 7th inning | 0:06 | Video |
Decisions
Winning Pitcher | Losing Pitcher | Save |
Allen, L.T. (2-2, 2.72 ERA) | Wells, T (3-2, 3.29 ERA) | |
Game ended at 3:28 PM.
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2023.05.29 17:10 totally___mcgoatally Timeline for hemoglobin increase after several IV bags?
Hi all.
On 5/12 and 5/19 I had an iron infusion and I've been trying to monitor and understand things. I've noticed it takes an average of 14-18 days, sometimes 3 weeks, to see an increase in my hemoglobin. I've had unexplained hemo drops that I'm getting looked into, it seems to correspond with my monthly cycle except my OB doesn't think I'm bleeding enough to drop 2-3+ points in a go.
On 5/22 I had an 11.9 hemoglobin (10 days post drip 1, 3 days post drip 2). Hematocrit at 36%.
On 5/24 I had a 12.8 hemoglobin (drawn with other labs). Hematocrit at 39%. I don't FEEL my hydration changed between those two days and I felt fine. I was 12 days post drip one, 5 days post drip two. I've been eating an nutrient rich diet for anemia (b12, folates, heme iron, vit C, etc) and suspect the drip had "kicked in" a bit. I've experienced similar upward swings (only upward) in my hemoglobin in this short of a time frame before without noticeable water intake differences or otherwise. 5/22 ferritin high at 250, TIBC low at 194, iron 85. Folate and B12 normal.
On 5/25 I got sent to ER with acute pancreatitis. Cause unknown but gallbladder, alcohol use, triglycerides, CURRENT meds, and high triglycerides and diabetes ruled out. Previous history of medication induced pancreatitis, possible exposure to a stomach bug a week prior this time so it's unclear. My hemoglobin was 14.5, hematocrit 43%. Dehydrated, NPO approx. 24 hrs at time of draw, loose stools all day.
After several (lost count, I think they were changing them every hour or two) bags of fluids for about 2 days straight, my hemoglobin measured in at 11.3 hemo on 5/27. Hematocrit 34%. Discontinued fluids after.
I have been on methylprednisolone via IV, initial dose was something like 120 then 40 every 12 hours - just a guess, it seems twice a day- for IV contrast rash.
On 5/29 I am at 11.9 hemo, NPO 12hrs at that point, no fluids. Hematocrit 35%.
As far as I can tell, the only loss of blood has been blood draws.
I'm curious if anyone has info on how quickly hemoglobin can expect to increase or rebound. I need to get labs drawn for an unrelated reason and I don't want to get them done too soon and give myself time to bounce back.
I tend to hold on to my water weight but was recently cleared to start spironolactone, 100mg 2x day. I'm also trying to avoid becoming too dehydrated.
When can I expect my labs to return to "normal" enough? I realize there's no standard time frame, I'm just curious when it'd be OK to redraw labs without them being far off from my actual levels.
TIA
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